Day 1#
Questions#
Ask about client
- interests
- degrees
What has your job search looked like so far?
- Are there any specific job search sites you used
- Any public postings soliciting employment?
What kind of work are you interested in?
- I know you have a degree in Blank, but is there any specific work you are looking for
Could you please walk us through the interactions you’ve had starting with when they reached out to you?
What were your thoughts when this employer first reached out to you?
For Friend: What made you think that this is a job scam?
Has something similar happened before?
- not to their knowledge
Is there anything specific you want us to look into
Interview Notes#
- Sam’s friends are the ones conducting the interview
- Sam is a student
- graduating this year
- undergrad with all over the place experience
- she/her
- “all over the place”
- Sam posts them on the resume websites and waits to see who reaches out
- reached out 2 days ago or yesterday
- really quick
- Shared some screenshots
- Sam has gone through actual jobs before
- This is very different than previous employment opportunities Sam has had
- Why am I right to be worried?
- Unsolicited
- starts with interview
- Vague company name
Post Interview Thoughts#
- We should have played both sides
- We should have cut the friends off when they were arguing
Day 2#
Questions#
- Is this interview consistent with the BBB scam report (W4 with social security number and credit card info)?
Interview Notes#
- excited about the money
- currently lives on a couch
- womp womp
- chat based interview
- swift responses are required
- Not the interviewer that was identified is different
- Company is different too
- Thinks they are all connected in some way
- Didn’t come into the interview with any position in mind
- Different positions available than what was previously offered
- Doesn’t know anything about compliance
- not something that was on Sam’s resume
- does not know what compliance means
- HR position being offered is more of a managerial position, not consistent with a job offer for a fresh grad
- not interested in HR, so asking about admin assistant instead
- Swift responses and long replies from “interviewer” are consistent with an AI chatbot
- Sam wants to apply for the admin assistant role
- *the scam likely is gonna be with purchasing the office equipment
- Immediate hire
- The interviewer account name is spelled wrong
Job Offer/Follow Up Notes#
- want to talk a little bit more
- Sam is excited and this makes her feel like she is doing well
- Timing of work
- Sam is available any time
- Offered the Job
- Benefits
- Health and dental
- tuition reimbursement
- stock purchase plan
- etc
- Employment offer letter will be sent by EOD
- Replies are still super fast from the employer
- Paid during training
- Long text messages again
- Sam is most focused on the money and is losing sight of other red flags
- EOD email came immediately
- Advice to Sam after the follow up
- don’t provide credit card info or SSN due to scam profile that’s reported - need to be cautious
- bring up the BBB report
- exact email everything matches. so we shouldm’t provide info to them, if they ask about a cc it’s 100% the scam. scam used teams, offer was very fast
- spelling mistakes, things that didn’t make sense, etc.
Day 3#
Formal Debrief Notes#
- Asked if they could proceed but cautiously
- Asked how BBB scam report works
- Send your case over to help them build their case
- Believes us but “Damn that sucks”
- Probably could have upped the “tactical empathy” at the end, but still was good